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  • Nemanja Majstorovic
    Participant
    @nemanja
    #1176

    @federico thanks for the video, I see it pretty much like all of you,I think that there are almost always good intentions in such innovations but unfortunately the use of them don’t depend on their creator….

    Thanks @gabrielgatu I find this very interesting to understand better the job environment of the developers.

     

    Marco Sappé Griot
    Participant
    @markinlog
    #1180

    Hi guys!

    Sorry for being late, as I can see and read you worked hard at the forum. On Monday I was impressed, as @lorenzobersano wrote, by the great positivity the guys brought us, and I started following the forum, nice topic and smart posts!

    Talking about big data analysis I think Kosinski’s research and method are brilliant, unfortunately innovations come to rich people first, usually. But that’s not a reason to disapprove it. Obviously we need good privacy rights and fair administration so that we feel not controlled using social network and Internet in general.

    I’m also sensitive about @federicolandorno‘s post (jobs prospective) I believe there comes a time when, after some years working in the same working context, you need new challenges : you want to restart with new ideas and different inspirational colleagues. As @pistillostefano said it’s not you have to change your job every “x” years, but when you feel you’ve learned enough and you are ready for a new experience. Don’t you think so?

    (Good point @andreamalgaroli about the importance of finding something we like, that makes us grow as people, that makes us people! I agree, it’s not just a matter of money and power, but a matter of awareness.)

    Really interesting video @federicolandorno (it reminds me of the spell of Rowling’s books: “Imperio”)!

    Lorenzo Tabasso
    Participant
    @lorenzotabasso
    #1183

    Hi Guys!

    Forgive me if I start a new topic, but here there are a lot! I don’t know where to start talk!

    So, my question is “what do you think about working remotely?” Andrea and Stefano talked about that at the last meeting on Monday.

    I think that is a good and especially comfortable way to work, but, maybe is too “dispersive”, to work without a precise and daily format… I don’t know. What do you think?

    Carlos
    Participant
    @carlosfilho
    #1184

    @lorenzotabasso, I think working remotely is very similar to being a freelancer, except for the fact that a freelancer has to keep searching for new jobs… At the beginning you get a bit worried thinking if you’ll be able to manage your time by yourself… But I think that working this way you get more responsible and it gives you also the possibility to learn how to manage your time and your projects.. It also doesn’t gives you more free time as many could think, but on the other hand, you have the freedom to organize your work time and free time…

    It also depends on how everyone feels working this way… Some people prefer the office… I like this idea of “freedom” 😀

    Riccardo Ferrero Regis
    Participant
    @foreversin
    #1185

    It’s like studying At home or At the library for me.  If you can focus and dont get distracted maybe a familiar place like your house is better. I get distracted easly so i prefer working and living in two different places.

    Here’s a list of pros and cons i found that sums up everything :

     

    Working remotely–pros and cons

    Fabio Ceresa
    Participant
    @fabioceresa
    #1186

    @lorenzotabasso I think it is only a matter of organisation. There are people that would prefer to work without specific daily format, and those who would waste all of their time without it. I myself would prefer to work remotely, because I could organise all my works in the best way. I find this way more practical.

    Lorenzo Tabasso
    Participant
    @lorenzotabasso
    #1187

    @carlosfilho @foreversin yeah, you’re both on the pro side of working remotely.

    I percetcly agree with you @carlosfilho, “it depends” from person to person! After this I think I’ll be on the “office” side! 😂 Because, if I take a moment to analyze myself, I know that for my way to work, my mind have to be focused and present in every work that I do, and also because I like to build some relationships between colleagues! During work (and not only) it helps a lot!

    Carlos
    Participant
    @carlosfilho
    #1190

    @lorenzotabasso, don’t be afraid of being dispersive… I actually am really dispersive myself… Working remotely helps you develop this part of yourself… You learn how to be “focused and present” when you have to work, and dispersive after that… I’m still a lot dispersive (hyperactivity or ADHD), but actually working that way made me become more responsible…

    For the interaction with the colleagues I can’t do anything though 😂

    Anyway, you should try both 😁👍

    PietroEBMgt
    Participant
    @pietromarenco
    #1199

    Hello SVST aspirants,

    my name is Pietro – interestingly I share Paolo’s surname 🙂 I am Psychologist by training and I specialise in the study of people at work (yes – what you know as HR!). In my spare time I help managers making better decisions by communicating management science – see @ScienceForWork on LinkedIn and Twitter – you are free to follow us!!! 😉 The objective of improving managerial decision-making through science falls within the framework of Evidence-Based Management – see Center for Evidence-Based Management at http://www.cebma.org/

    I have been involved in the SVST both in 2011, after writing a diploma’s thesis comparing Olivetti’s SpA and Google organisational culture, and in 2014, prior to enrolling into a double master degree in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from the University of Bologna and Valencia.

    After combining a deal with Paolo, I took charge of stimulating a reflection on a topic which I am familiar with by training and personal inclination:

    NETWORKING AS CAREER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY

    The thread is a formal discussion like those you’ve been participating previously in this forum, and it will involve 2 steps:

    1. I will ask you to share your knowledge and experience about networking (what, when, and how), and support your statements with evidence as much as you can.
    2. Later, I will share few selected (scientific) evidence on networking as career management strategy.

    Let’s get started right away…

    STEP 1: please, answer the following 4 questions trying to be clear and concise; you can use bullets and highlight key concepts.

    Think of NETWORKING as a CAREER MANAGEMENT STRATEGY

    Q 1: What is networking? How can you define it?

    Q 2: When do you (or other people) do networking? In what contexts, and for satisfying what needs, do you do networking?

    Q 3: How do you (or other people) do networking? What is important in the process of doing networking? Are there strategies that work better than other?

    In elaborating these logical but challenging questions, I ask you to be explicit about what source of evidence (=information) you base your statements on:

    your (or others’) personal experience (share examples!)

    best practices in place in your organization/non-profit association/university

    scientific sources of information

    …and anything you deem relevant and accurate.

    END NOTE: from our experience, the Silicon Valley Study Tour involves a great deal of networking. This discussion aims to put our heads around it to get there with a refined sense of this competence.
    Thank you for your attention, I am looking forward to learning together.

    Pietro

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  PietroEBMgt.
    Paolo Marenco
    Keymaster
    @paolomarenco
    #1202

    Hey all, a point of next steps.

    The 4 Forum from Torino, Novara, Castellanza (LIUC) and Milano are espressing something more than 30 attendees , high quality…pratically they could fill it up a SVST 🙂

    I have already received 10 cv…deadline March 31. Now we start your help to find sponsors for the Tour by our https://techscoutsv.com  initiative.

    Born in 2013 , permitted to many Alumni to transform the SVST in a Tech and Business scouting project  for italian SME’s and startups that want to open to the Silicon Valley Ecosystem.

    Techscout consists in  attending  the Tour and remain in SV from 1 week more to up 3 months from  yr arrival for SVST ( according to 3 month ESTA Visa duration) to do a TECH or business scouting for one or more companies that cover your costs. The coverage could be from the minimum (1500 Euro to cover  SVST inscription fee, and stay 1 week only;  to 6-8000 Euro, to stay 3 months). It’s just a coverage of expenses but a huge opportunity for you. Who did it ( many guys and girls) is now startupper or working in Italy or abroad.

    One of the best case is Carola Pescio Canale ( Carola PC on facebook) that will be speaker via skype in Novara, Fondazione Novara Sviluppo , March 30, 5-7 pm.( see Novara Forum)

    Join if you can. She, 26, biz grad,  has now her second job in Silicon Valley

     How we promote this for you? ( you can do also by yourself , by personal or University contacts or sponsorship)

    1 You as a group make your Crowdfunding Project. We did 4 in the last 4 years from UNI Torino selected students. Some promoter will talk at the Torino Conference to be held on Monday 27 3-5 pm- Join if u can (see Torino Forum).  Obviously one reward for a company that put money on it, could be a Tech Scouting project

    2 Join the Facebook Group Italian Start up Scene. I will make a post in the next days to promote you all for the Tech Scouting Project. In this case the target could be the italian Start up interested to Silicon Valley. We will give the direct contact with you to the Italian Start up interested: they will choose autonomously the right man or woman for the job, among you, according to the skills required for their goal.

    As you understand , now proactivity from your side is a must, to reach the goal of SVST!

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  Paolo Marenco.
    Carlos
    Participant
    @carlosfilho
    #1217

    @pietromarenco, I’ll try my best to answer (hoping that I understood well what you want):

    Networking: “Networking is a process that fosters the exchange of information and ideas among individuals or groups that share common interests… Physically, a network forms interconnecting lines through passages, lines or cables. One line may intersect with another, and then the second line goes in a different direction to connect to more lines, and so on and so forth to form a netlike structure. Metaphorically, someone’s network remains connected through a series of symbolic ties. Business connections may form due to someone’s education, employer, industry or common colleagues…” (From Investopedia: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/networking.asp).

    My point of view: Nowadays when someone hears the word “network”, the first thing that comes in mind is “social media”. From what I think, it’s a way to represent it, but I think it’s not precise. There are some lacks (I think) on social media as pure networks that are:

    Interaction: One may have thousands of friends on facebook or followers on twitter, but actually interacts with just few of them;

    Image: On social networks you create picture of yourself that may not represent the reality, so the connections you create may note be strong as they seem;

    Why did I say “pure” before? Because for me, network is a connection between people (or corporations, startups, etc) that is refined over time through interactions, avoiding stalls and it has to be double sided (both sides need to cultivate it), and differently from the definition from Investopedia, i think that (socialy speaking) it’s not extremely necessary a common interest. I just want to precise that I don’t think that “dead branches” on a network are a bad thing as anything can born from there also, but i wanted to highlight the need to “cultivate” it.

     

    When do we do networking? Always. Every interaction we have with someone is a kind of networking (online or offline, for business or not). After the first interaction with anyone, we have the choice to continue this interaction through time, adding an active branch to our network. If we don’t do it, we are adding a “dead branch” to it (that, as I said before, is not a bad thing). At this point I can say that I think Networking is Interaction, and we do it everywhere, all the time. Just as example, we can see

    Busness networking: “… activity by which businesspeople and entrepreneurs meet to form business relationships and to recognize, create, or act upon business opportunities,share information and seek potential partners for ventures…” (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_networking);

    Personal Network:  “…a group of caring, dedicated people who are committed to maintain a relationship with a person in order to support a given set of activities…” (Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_network);

    Why do we do networking? I think it depends on the context you are… If we talk about personal networks, we create them for our need to connect with other people (acceptance, appreciation, belonging and companionship – from Reference.com: https://www.reference.com/world-view/social-needs-8e3901f003c9203e). If we talk about business networking, as said before, it’s to improve business connections, or if we just talk about an employee’s network, we can see the need to seek for new opportunties, other than their personal relationship with his/her coleagues (Work it daily, Why Networking is important for your job search: https://www.workitdaily.com/networking-job-search-important/).

     

    How do I network? Well, I am very open to new connections, and I prefere the “physical” ones. I usualy use social media such as Facebook for far branches on my network (with my family and friends around the world), but I prefer to keep my connection with near branches as a “face by face” connection, when it’s possible. Also speaking of work connections, often the connection is just through e-mails (I’m talking about my experience when working as a freelance graphic designer), but where I can, I prefere face to face meetings, because it’s easier to creat a work connection when someone sees your commitment to the job or even just to the connection you have, then just through a curriculum, portfolio or presentation letter, even if a networking job search is actually one of the best choices to create new connections nowadays.

    Strategies? Well, I have to say I don’t have many. For personal connections, I think the only strategy is being yourself. You need to let people know who you are. Instead, when it comes to work connections, I try to do the best I can in every single project I have, trying to cultivate the connections that I already have, and I hope I can learn about creating new connections from this new experience.

     

    Hope it’s not too long 😀

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  Carlos.
    Leonardo Falcioni
    Participant
    @leonardo
    #1219

    @pietromarenco I’ll try answering all the questions in the most concise and intellegible way possible. I already state that my answare will probably be too analytical (in a cold way), so I hope it will still be interesting.

    What is networking? How can you define it?

    There are a certain number of definitions for this word, depending on the field you are using it in. The definition I like to go with is the one given by the Cambridge Dictionary: A large system consisting of many similar parts that are connected together to allow movement or communication between or along the parts, or between the parts and a control centre.

    This definition can be applied to humans also, since it talks about similar parts (humans with similar interests) that interact.

    Of course, this is a more general way to see it, since today the word network is often used to describe something belonging to the internet, like social media or a company’s web infrastructure.

    When do you (or other people) do networking? In what contexts, and for satisfying what needs, do you do networking?

    According to the above definition, I’d say people network when interacting between one another, allowing a certain movement: something that is born or that evolves during an interaction (like a discussion). Based on this, people network to organize, confront and hopefully evolve, both mentally and phisically. It could be also applied to how society works (similar parts that interact and allow movement between or along the parts, or between the parts and a control centre). So I’d say that every time I interact with someone, I network. Specifically, everytime the interaction entail an evolution of myself or of those who surround me. An example may be what I experience at university, learning new things just by listening to my professor or by talking with classmates.

    How do you (or other people) do networking? What is important in the process of doing networking? Are there strategies that work better than other?

    Answering this question, I think there needs to be a distinction between the online networking and the offline one. Regarding the former one, I’d say I network while talking with friends on a chat or by posting elements on the net. I usually use Facebook or YouTube to interact with others, or chat via What’s App. It could be seen in a different way if we take into consideration big data as a mean to analyse society, in that case maybe even just by browsing, I’m networking.

    About the latter, I think I already answered: I’d say that every time I interact with someone, I network. Specifically, everytime the interaction entail an evolution of myself or of those who surround me.

    I’d say that to do networking (the offline one) the only relevant aspect is to keep an open mind. What I mean is, the inclination to understand and, sometimes, accept another’s message (here is the communication aspect I talked about before) is the key aspect to learn and evolve. Doing so creates a dyinamic society wich adapts and evolves. If considering this, I’d say strategies are endless, but I think the one I like the most is “Fare buon viso a cattivo gioco” (I used the italian version just for personal taste).

    About online networking, I think the important aspect and strategies can match the offline ones. Today the web has become an extension of ourselves, and our online behavior can affect us offline too.

    I hope I answered briefly enough. I gave pretty generic and “cold” definitions because I prefer to analyse a new topic under this aspect ahah. I also didn’t post any source apart form the initial definition of network because this was all pesonal reasoning based on that definition.

    Fabio Ceresa
    Participant
    @fabioceresa
    #1222

    @pietromarenco I’ll try to answer to all of your questions in the best way I can.

     

    What is networking? How can you define it?

     

    I like the business definiton of Networking given by The Balance : “Networking is a skill and a low cost method of marketing that is used to build new business contacts through connecting with other like minded individuals. “

    https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-business-networking-2917382

    There is also a more “practical” and simple definiton, given by Oxford Dictionaries : ” An arrangement of intersecting horizontal and vertical lines “

    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/network

    I myself think that a network is a structure that allows people with commons interests to interact each other.

     

    When do you (or other people) do networking? In what contexts, and for satisfying what needs, do you do networking?

     

    As I said before, I think people do networking when they have to satisfy some business/job needs. They have to interact with each other for mutual benefits. In fact Networking is a structured plan to get to know people who will do business with you or introduce you to those who will.

    I’ll make an example. I want to open a company (or even a startup), the first thing I need to do is to find someone who can work for (or with) me and that has the required skills to do it… if I have an ample network, it’s easier to find the people I am looking for.

    The example above is a simple explanation of how a network could be used.

     

    How do you (or other people) do networking? What is important in the process of doing networking? Are there strategies that work better than other?

     

    Personally, I know some people that do networking. They have a very good communication skill, in fact they seem to be outgoing, sincere, friendly, supportive, a good listener…a leader. They use Social media (Facebook, Youtube, Linkedin and even Whatsapp and Telegram) a lot and have a deep knowledge of them. But they also try to meet their contacts face to face if it’s possible.

    I think that the best way to succeed at networking is to improve your communication skills and to maintain regular and consistent contact with the people in your database. In my opinion, one of the most successful communication tactics is to periodically meet with people in the network face to face or maybe through a skype call, because it’s much more personal. For this reason I’d try to stay away from email communication,because they seem to be too “cold”.

     

    That’s all, I hope that these thoughts (as the previous ones) could stimulate this debate!

     

     

    • This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by  Fabio Ceresa.
    Federico Landorno
    Participant
    @federicolandorno
    #1228

    Welcome to the forum Pietro, I’ll try my best to answer to this interesting and stimulating topic.

    • Q1: What is networking? How can you define it?
    I found this definition from the business point of view.

    Creating a group of acquaintances and associates and keeping it active through regular communication for mutual benefit. Networking is based on the question “How can I help?” and not with “What can I get?”
    http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/networking.html

    Generally networking for me is the exchange of information and experience between people increasing the knowledge of participants and binding them through common interests.
    A perfect example of Networking is this forum: we are discussing topics that interest us and this constant exchange of views and information has encouraged us to read up more about a topic and we have now learned about concepts about which we knew little.

    • Q 2: When do you (or other people) do networking? In what contexts, and for satisfying what needs, do you do networking?
    Like almost all people, I do networking every day (of course, not the business one). Every moment is good to share something with someone who is interested about that topic, to inform him or to have a debate.
    Creating a network is an efficient and natural way to learn from someone who is well versed on the subject and it is for this reason that I do it. Besides, we don’t simply accept the explanation of who knows more, but we also examine the matter in depth even further, in such a way that everyone can learn something new.
    For me, it’s a good way not to be superficial about the topic at hand.

    • Q 3: How do you (or other people) do networking? What is important in the process of doing networking? Are there strategies that work better than other?
    You have to divide the networking in two contexts: “live” and “web”.
    Live: we exchange information mainly about the experiences and being together increases the harmony and relationship. It’s important to increase the number of our connections, because the more people participate to the discussions, the more will be the cues that can be gained.
    Web: I always try to keep up to date about news concerning my interests, so that I can discuss it with those who relate to me. In addition to increasing the number of links, it is also important to learn even more about the topic through extensive research.

    Personally I think the best strategy is being yourself and trying to avoid being shy, so that you can relate better with other people.
    Another one is to increase the size of the network, by asking people you are already in contact with to introduce you to others and to let you know about various kinds of communities.

    I tried to respond by highlighting my thoughts and I hope I was exhaustive.

    Riccardo Ferrero Regis
    Participant
    @foreversin
    #1229

    My turn 😛

    What is networking? How can you define it?

    It’s difficult to answer correctly and in a comprehensive form. We can define networking as  the set of problems,and/or rules,to which two or more entities are subject when they require to exchange and share informations and resources. As it often happens in computer science giving any translation of the term would be reductive,as it would mean to have identified and defined the limits: this is not possible because technology advances rapidly. Networking is based on a reciprocal relationship in which one gives and recives, it is about time,skill or informations.

    When do you (or other people) do networking? In what contexts, and for satisfying what needs, do you do networking?

    During all the occasions in which you may give or get information potentially useful for your objective.You can do networking during evetns or meetings and as carlos already said almost always.I do networking everytime i’m not with a close friend or a relative, mainly to maintain friendships and now that i’m approaching the world of work also for job opportunities.

    How do you (or other people) do networking? What is important in the process of doing networking?Are there strategies that work better than other?

    First of all you need to have a plan. Since every person has value, it’s essential that you know what yours is. Before you attend any networking event(online/offline), get clear on what talents, strengths, skill sets and connections you can bring to the table. Then you have to start off networking with your existing connections,i like to work on networking first on this group of people before moving on to people with whom i have a more tenuous connection. You always need to have your evelator pitch prepared. The most important thing for me is to not be afraid to go deeper in your convesation. If it stays on the bottom half of the ladder,you risk not distinguishing yourself from the dozens of other people that the person you’re networking with meets. Last but not least, approach the networking experience from the perspective of “how can i help this persone”?,i try to approach a networking situation being willing to help someone else out first . If you genuinely try to help others out, they’ll want to do the same for you.

    Start networking before you need it.

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